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Author:  Tosuxo [ Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:28 am ]
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Leighland wrote:
I ... Don't....Have....A....Router


If I do, it's built in to the modem.

I have no way to configure or access the router ... 192.168.2.1 is the way I access my modem configuration and there isn't anything there related to port forwarding


then you have a router with a built-in modem.

what about anything like "Virtual Host" or such like?
Author:  Leighland [ Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:35 am ]
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Okay, I give up...someon lock/delete this if they wish, I've gotten nowhere but back to where I was when I started.
Author:  Krloz [ Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:01 am ]
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Ask your ISP for a modem without router o.O
Author:  Dr. Spoon [ Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:51 am ]
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I could possibly help you if you want to talk about it on msn..
my msn is mailto:sortep_u@hotmail.com
if you so choose to use my assistance
Author:  Tosuxo [ Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:19 am ]
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Leighland wrote:
Okay, I give up...someon lock/delete this if they wish, I've gotten nowhere but back to where I was when I started.


frikkin quitters....
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:58 pm ]
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Tosuxo wrote:
Leighland wrote:
Okay, I give up...someon lock/delete this if they wish, I've gotten nowhere but back to where I was when I started.


frikkin quitters....


Just because you said that I decided not to give up. Ass :)

Anyways, I had s friend who's helping me with this game use his computer to try and connect.

I used the No-IP client to update the DNS <valaron.zapto.org> so that it satys constant with the changing IP. I put that No-IP address into both the server and client. Sent him the client and started the server. He couldn't connect. I changed the server ip to the networks IP just for kicks, which also didn't work.

My brother was at a friends, he also tried the script, which contained the no-IP address, and it also wouldn't connect to the server.

So what does this tell us? That only I can play my Multi-Player game... lol.

Where should I go from here? Port forwarding doesn't seem to be an option on the modem configuration, nor is there anything related to it there. However, there are 2 DNS server addresses there... can they be used in any way?
Author:  Misunderstood [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:14 pm ]
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if you arent directly connected to the internet, and your whatismyip is different than your ip from ipconfig, you do need to portforward, look in your modems manual, or router actually...if you have one.
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:21 pm ]
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This is directly from the book, which I should have read a loooong time ago lmao... It doesn't help any, just makes me feel right stupid :)


Quote:
14. IP address / Email Address / Host Name. Any IP address, email address, or host name assigned to you by Your Service Provider is property of Your Service Provider at all times, and may be changed or withdrawn at any time in the sole discretion of Your Service Provider. IP addresses will change each time your DSL modem or system is powered off, or any time at the discretion of Your Service Provider at any time without prior notice.


lol... right there in black and white, would have taken away all the guess work :(

Meh, time to go do some reading :o
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:25 pm ]
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You are prohibited form using the Service for such activities as:

Running, and/or hosting server applications including but not limited to HTTP, FTP, POP, SMTP, Proxy/SOCKs, and NNTP.


Does that include Mirage Servers ya think? :(
Author:  Tosuxo [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:28 pm ]
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Leighland wrote:
You are prohibited form using the Service for such activities as:

Running, and/or hosting server applications including but not limited to HTTP, FTP, POP, SMTP, Proxy/SOCKs, and NNTP.


Does that include Mirage Servers ya think? :(


that's bullshit... but all they can do to stop you is block certain ports.. do like i said... change the port to something crazy like 13375 and they're screwed lol
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:36 pm ]
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i did its 10293 lol ... kinda useless though if no one can connect to it >.<
Author:  Tosuxo [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:38 pm ]
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Leighland wrote:
i did its 10293 lol ... kinda useless though if no one can connect to it >.<


so let's work this through, point by point... you can log into your router yes? (router with modem built in i mean)...

what are the menu options you have? please post a screenshot :)
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:45 pm ]
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I have this

Image
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:48 pm ]
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Mode Options:

Image
Author:  Tosuxo [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:00 pm ]
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ok my advice... get a regular modem from your ISP... that's one shitty router.... no menu's etc

it's the router that's the problem there, sorry to say
Author:  Leighland [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:04 pm ]
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From the documentation in the book it seems that ALL of their equipment is like this... Evil Evil People!!!


Bah, guess I'll just hae to program and test everything myself and have someone host the server :(
Author:  Matt [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:15 pm ]
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Are you behind a router, connected directly to the internet, or are you on a network and connecting through another PC to access the internet?

Since I added you to MSN, and you're never on. Lol.
Author:  Tosuxo [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:25 pm ]
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start server, wait 'til loaded

then test the port on this:
http://ce3c.be/stuff/razact/

if it says there are problems, then it's the router
Author:  Leighland [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:35 am ]
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TCP failed ... man this stinks :(
Author:  Misunderstood [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:54 am ]
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try clicking on setup
Author:  Matt [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:55 am ]
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I've been trying to help you, I've done all of this already, several times, if you get on MSN, I can try to walk you through it.
Author:  Leighland [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:59 am ]
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Miss, setup doesn't do anything other than connect the modem to the internet... I just read through bell's website and it says that every modem contains a NAT firewall...

@Advocate, I'll be on shortly
Author:  Leighland [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:12 am ]
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Okay we can forget about this now.

Me and advocate discovered, numerous times I think :p, that my computer won't allow itself to be found on the internet.

It resulted in me calling the ISP to see if port forwarding was possible with my modem and they said no. Not with the current one. If I upgrad emy internet package, though, they send a new modem, with a built in router, which does allow port forwarding, though it isn't condoned by the ISP ... poo on them.

I also found out that the modem I have doesn't in fact have a router built into it, it's a NAT firewall. So umm, if anyone knows how to bypass one, and unmask the IP :) tell me lol.

The guy told me I can't have any computer contact my computer, at all. This is a lie, in my mind anyways, because I can chat on MSN, and AIM. I'm sending a message to a sever which is sending it to someone. And someone sends a message to the server which then sends me the message, right? So technically, the server is connecting to my computer, and sending it information.

Anyways, behind on my net bills as it is and unless I pay nother 5 bucks a month, which at this point seems like a lot, or I can find a way to unmask the IP and getting past the firewall, I can't host. Thanks for all your suggestions though lol... you tried.
Author:  grimsk8ter11 [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:38 am ]
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as with comcast. hosting any type of server or service is against the TOS unless you upgrade to business class.
Author:  Tosuxo [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:33 am ]
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instead of changing ISP perhaps... you should ring them up and threaten to change ISP...

they may just give you stuff to keep you as a customer... worked with BT for me... nice spare router :)
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